AVL Simulation Podcast

#2: Hydrogen, Simulation, and High-Impact Teams – Emmanuella Sotiropoulou on Engineering the Future of ICE Fast

AVL Digital Season 1 Episode 2

In this episode, we speak with Emmanuella Sotiropoulou, Vice President of Prometheus Applied Technologies.

From early engineering curiosity to leading a niche high-impact company, Emmanuella is driving innovation in hydrogen combustion. We explore how Prometheus transforms diesel engines into hydrogen engines using holistic combustion solutions – combining ignition systems, injection strategies, and advanced CFD methods.

She shares her perspective on the evolving role of simulation: where its untapped potential lies, why mesh and chemical mechanisms remain bottlenecks, and how AI will accelerate predictability and speed in future development workflows.

We also discuss team leadership in a specialized environment, including how small, strengths-based teams collaborate, learn, and stay ahead in a fast-moving industry.

Finally, we hear a personal reflection on purpose, energy, and support, and how meaningful work and the right people around you can fuel long-term performance.

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<b>[MUSIC]</b><b>Welcome to the AVL simulation podcast where engineering missions take off.</b><b>Join us as we navigate the evolving universe</b><b>of digital engineering and simulation in the</b><b>automotive and energy industries. Explore the</b><b>forces shaping the AVL simulation software suite</b><b>and hear how pioneers across the globe use it to outpace competition.</b><b>Strap in. Our mission begins now. Welcome your host to today's episode.</b><b>Welcome back at the AVL simulation podcast.</b><b>I'm Mark Zoma and today we're heading straight to</b><b>the frontiers of alternative fuels innovation.</b><b>My guest is Emanuele Soteropoulou, Vice President</b><b>and Co-Founder of Prometheus Applied</b><b>Technologies. With her background in electrical and mechanical</b><b>engineering, Emanuele has helped shape</b><b>groundbreaking solutions that convert combustion</b><b>engines to run on hydrogen, ammonia and</b><b>methanol. We'll talk about the engineering philosophy</b><b>behind Prometheus, her view on simulation as a</b><b>tool for building trust and the pioneering spirit</b><b>needed to break new ground. Sometimes literally. Let's dive in.</b><b>Emanuele, please give our audience a brief</b><b>description of your company and your role in it.</b><b>Prometheus. We started Prometheus, Luigi and I, who's my business partner in 2010.</b><b>The idea behind it is to provide combustion</b><b>solutions to the industry, to OEMs. Those are</b><b>our customers. Primarily, we started with</b><b>pre-chamber spark plugs or pre-combustion chambers.</b><b>Now it's expanded to a complete combustion</b><b>solution. We have about 10 engineers right now.</b><b>We're a small company, but we are both in Germany and in Munich specifically and in</b><b>Fort Collins, Colorado. I am the Vice President</b><b>of Prometheus, but in a small company like ours,</b><b>it just means that I do everything. From</b><b>being finance to finding and calling and managing</b><b>minor things for the office to technical lead, coming to conferences like today,</b><b>and also doing this podcast. Great. We will</b><b>touch on many topics throughout this podcast.</b><b>Now to give an even better understanding, maybe</b><b>you can give us an example of a real-world use</b><b>case for your customers. How do you help</b><b>them and how would such a project look like?</b><b>Let's just take an example of a most recent</b><b>development. There's quite a bit of push of</b><b>using hydrogen as an alternative fuel. We</b><b>have this new project that we're just starting</b><b>last week actually, where we take a diesel</b><b>engine. This is heavy-duty off-highway type of engine.</b><b>That's diesel and now converting it to running</b><b>on pure hydrogen. We have to consider the mixing</b><b>of the hydrogen in cylinder, the injection</b><b>strategy, direct injector, PFI. This is direct</b><b>injection. Designing the nozzle for the injector,</b><b>designing the injection strategy, the flow dynamic</b><b>that needs to take place in cylinder because</b><b>when you have diesel, you don't care about the flow.</b><b>You care when you're doing pre-mixed combustion</b><b>with the hydrogen. We're designing the pre-chamber</b><b>spark plug. It's like a holistic solution.</b><b>It's the newest thing we have been promoting and</b><b>explaining how you have a holistic solution where</b><b>you use flame jet ignition with the use of pre-chamber</b><b>plugs to the use of the proper nozzle design to get the appropriate mixing we need.</b><b>The ignition system, all these three things go</b><b>together, which is the same cycle spark control.</b><b>It's new technology to control the energy of the</b><b>spark within the same cycle to be able to mitigate</b><b>hot spots. I could talk about that for a long</b><b>time, but I will pause now. This is in essence.</b><b>We're designing the solution to be able to go</b><b>from diesel running engine to a hydrogen engine.</b><b>So it's the whole combustion system for that.</b><b>Your customer groups, could you segment them a little</b><b>bit? Who are they? Who are you working for? Our</b><b>customers are engine OEMs and the applications</b><b>they span from drones to trucks, buses, these</b><b>heavy duty on and off highway, power generation,</b><b>marine applications. So if it can do</b><b>combustion, it's reciprocating engine, we can do it. So</b><b>it's a huge breadth of applications. Beautiful.</b><b>Let's get to the name of your company. What was</b><b>the inspiration for that? Okay, I have to say it</b><b>was not, it was like not original. It's very generic</b><b>because everybody, when it comes to dealing</b><b>with combustion, they think Prometheus because</b><b>he was a Titan that stole the fire from the</b><b>Olympian gods like Zeus and gave it to the humans,</b><b>which meant technology and advancement. So when</b><b>we were talking with Luigi about starting this</b><b>company, I said,"Listen, it needs to be named</b><b>Prometheus. There will be no other name for this</b><b>company." So here we are today. And it was</b><b>difficult. He was having a difficult time pronouncing.</b><b>He wanted to use the Italian version of it.</b><b>And I said, "Forget it." It's not gonna happen.</b><b>You're using the original. Very well. So within your company, why do people,</b><b>what do people come to you for? What makes you the center of your constellation?</b><b>I like this. I'm gonna use this when they come and</b><b>visit me to ask questions. But they, no, usually,</b><b>besides just managing the latest and greatest</b><b>fire, no pun intended, they come to ask me for</b><b>putting together, usually when we do customer</b><b>presentations or reports, to just make sure that</b><b>the messaging is clear. And the story that,</b><b>because in the end, you have a lot of data,</b><b>and you have to whittle it down and give the</b><b>message to the customer of what they're looking for.</b><b>So in the end, the customer is satisfied. The</b><b>message is clear. There's a clear path forward,</b><b>and they are confident in our ability to deliver.</b><b>So as you had a very precise idea of what to name</b><b>your company, what nickname would you give your job if you had to?</b><b>Okay, so I don't have one, but I can tell you what the guys at the office call me,</b><b>which I never really picked up on it, but</b><b>now I know. They call me Em, because Emmanuel,</b><b>but they call me Em from James Bond. So yes, I</b><b>guess that's what I do. How is this possible?</b><b>But that is what the going word is. Well, that's</b><b>a compliment, I would say. I took it like that.</b><b>That's pretty cool. Let's stick with your history</b><b>and the past. What got you into engineering in the</b><b>first place? So when I was little, back in the</b><b>days of corded phones, so not even cordless phones,</b><b>and VCRs. Well, a corded phone, please say again</b><b>what this actually is to our audience that might</b><b>not know. A cell phone by like a lot bigger with a</b><b>cord that's very, very long, because it has to go</b><b>to all the different rooms in the house. It's</b><b>plugged into the wall. Thank you for clarification.</b><b>For a younger audience. Yes. So that is how we</b><b>used to talk to our friends is take the phone and go</b><b>to your room, close the door, and then my</b><b>brother would trip on the wire and then I would have to</b><b>fix it because I needed to talk to my friends. So</b><b>I had to do a lot of phone repair and VCR repair.</b><b>And I thought I was very interested in how things</b><b>worked. So that's what got me intrigued into the</b><b>sciences aspect and into engineering specifically. I really liked fixing things,</b><b>or finding out how things work and then putting</b><b>them back together. Okay, so you just disassembled</b><b>and then put it back together. That was your</b><b>hobby. I wouldn't call it a hobby, but when</b><b>nobody was around, that's what I would do. I</b><b>couldn't get in trouble. I see. And everything</b><b>worked when you put it back together. Yes, they</b><b>did. Because if they didn't, I would get in a lot</b><b>of trouble. So I always made sure it would</b><b>work. Very good. And then simulation. When did that</b><b>enter your life the first time? Okay, back to the</b><b>era of the corded phone. Then we go to the era of</b><b>when Windows appeared on the computers. So that's</b><b>when I went to university. In fact, I think when</b><b>I started university, there were no windows.</b><b>But halfway through there, windows became a thing.</b><b>There were simulation packages that we were</b><b>using. My school background is electrical engineering.</b><b>So it was for circuit simulation. So that is</b><b>when I was exposed to it for the first time. And I</b><b>really enjoyed it because you could do so many</b><b>things and move so many things like resistors,</b><b>capacitors, and see what is that doing to the</b><b>resonance of the circuit, which I know the MEs</b><b>listening right now are rolling their eyes. But</b><b>it's the ability to do something like that a lot</b><b>faster than going to the lab and having to</b><b>power everything, design everything, and measure</b><b>everything. So I really enjoyed simulation from</b><b>the early days of possibly having simulations.</b><b>Great. Sticking with simulation, but moving</b><b>now into your core topic, combustion engines,</b><b>where do you see the potential for simulation?</b><b>And maybe you can give us an overview. Where did we</b><b>start with simulation for combustion engines?</b><b>Where are we today? And where do you think we can be</b><b>tomorrow? So I remember when I was first exposed to</b><b>combustion simulations, it wasn't even combustion,</b><b>it was just flow for an internal combustion</b><b>engine. It was probably in the early 2000s. And they were</b><b>quarter models of the cylinder because of</b><b>the computational capability was not there.</b><b>And we've gone from quarter models, cold</b><b>simulations to now full models, combustion simulations,</b><b>the highest degree of predictability. And the</b><b>sky's the limit when it comes to being able to</b><b>come up with solutions. So I think in the end,</b><b>with the, let's say the AI introduction in our world,</b><b>I think it's going to help us advance even more</b><b>the ability of these tools to be used by engineers</b><b>with innovation to create solutions. So I have high hopes in what can happen.</b><b>So the simulation methodology that you're</b><b>referring to is CFD, computational fluid dynamics. And</b><b>if you want to listen to some doubters of CFD,</b><b>you sometimes hear the term colors for directors.</b><b>What would you say to somebody who is approaching you with this statement?</b><b>Oh, yeah, that's, I mean, it has happened. And</b><b>I get a very strong emotional reaction because</b><b>Prometheus provides solutions that work in the</b><b>industry. I mean, otherwise, we would not be in</b><b>business based on tools like AVL FIRE™ that we</b><b>use for CFD that allow us to check the solutions</b><b>and make sure they work before we go to a customer and say, please test this.</b><b>So what I say to people that think it's color for directors or whatever,</b><b>your experience is not right. I'm not sure who</b><b>you've been talking to, but come talk to me and</b><b>I will explain to you how it is not. And indeed,</b><b>it has value, a tremendous value, especially now</b><b>with all these alternative fuels that we're</b><b>trying to get them to work to help the world.</b><b>How come especially with alternative</b><b>fuels? What makes it so important in this field?</b><b>So, I mean, engines have been around for</b><b>more than 100 years, you know, diesel, gasoline.</b><b>Now, as we go to alternative fuels, we need to have more, I want to say</b><b>complicated, but they need to be more refined solutions to make these fuels work.</b><b>I mean, hydrogen is a difficult fuel to keep it</b><b>in a combustion regime that is safe and stable.</b><b>So you have to come up with these</b><b>solutions, like I was saying, this holistic solution.</b><b>This is not possible without CFD. It is</b><b>absolutely not possible. We will never have a solution.</b><b>The ammonia, any kind of alternative fuel needs a</b><b>slightly more complicated solution to get it to work.</b><b>And we need to ramp up the time in which we want</b><b>to bring it to market. We want to actually use it.</b><b>And simulation and virtualization is the</b><b>key to it. So that's a very strong statement.</b><b>Have you had a customer say that they don't trust in simulation or did you get</b><b>pushback when you maybe laid out your project</b><b>plan or your customer plan for a certain customer?</b><b>Have you received pushback towards simulation?</b><b>So, you know, most of our customers know this is how we do our work.</b><b>So, of course, it's expected. But within each</b><b>OEM, there are what we call the "doubting Thomas's".</b><b>And you get people that don't believe or have a lot of questions. And we do spend</b><b>quite a bit of time and effort in whatever project</b><b>to bring this person that has doubts along with us.</b><b>So in the end, you have, you know, expectations</b><b>and solutions generated by, you know, the use of CFD.</b><b>But the proof is at the end when you actually take this harder and you test and you</b><b>show the "doubting Thomas" that look, expectation is now met</b><b>with real engine data, because that's in the end what matters.</b><b>But we're able to do this in a shorter time because of the simulation capability</b><b>and arrive to good solutions without having to do trial and error, trial and error,</b><b>which then will never if you don't understand</b><b>what's happening, you will never get the final solution.</b><b>You mentioned that you had 10 engineers in your company.</b><b>What were you looking for when assembling this team or what are you looking for</b><b>when adding somebody to your team from a</b><b>personality and the character point of view?</b><b>Okay, so we are a small team. And what we do is very niche. So the team has to fit</b><b>together because we have to spend quite a bit</b><b>of time and effort in training every engine.</b><b>Even if they have a lot of experience, they</b><b>don't have, let's say, the Prometheus experience.</b><b>So they need to be, you know, willing to learn and tolerant or accepting of others.</b><b>We all have our strengths as an individual and where someone is lacking in</b><b>something, we have another person that fulfills that aspect.</b><b>So it's trying to teach them to work as a team and work on their strengths. Like</b><b>you will go, for example, to Matthew, if you want</b><b>something very special coded or an algorithm made or something.</b><b>And you would go to Supreeth for some kind of high level approach on a project, but</b><b>not necessarily vice versa. So those people need to</b><b>learn what their strengths are, what their weaknesses are.</b><b>And that's why I think it's important to be more of a team. You know, you can also</b><b>fix a lot of, you know, self understanding and then use</b><b>your team to help you be more than the sum of the parts.</b><b>So that is key in selecting people for our</b><b>team. And I think it should be for any team.</b><b>I imagine your daily routines, you have 10 engineers, I</b><b>assume you have more than one project at the same time.</b><b>Hopefully, or maybe. How can we imagine that?</b><b>How do these engineers work together? How do you</b><b>organize your teams? What are these routines?</b><b>So, you know, there's always room for improvement</b><b>on, you know, various aspects of our work, but we have</b><b>team meetings two to three times a week where we</b><b>discuss all the projects. And the expectation is</b><b>that every single engineer is aware of what projects are going on. And they kind of</b><b>have a high level understanding of what the project is about.</b><b>And we typically have everyone work on every project in some kind of the aspect of</b><b>the project, either as a support role, as a lead role, you know, it depends.</b><b>And, you know, that way there's a growth that happens from, you know, shared</b><b>experiences, because everything we do is cutting edge.</b><b>So there's no cookie cutter projects, really, to say, oh, we've done this, just</b><b>follow this project and go do it on your own.</b><b>It's very much a collaborative environment with a lot of ideas and outside the box</b><b>ideas that are needed to get solutions to work with the alternative fuels.</b><b>So we've mentioned it before that we live in a very fast paced world and there are</b><b>new approaches, new solutions coming up, but also new challenges as they emerge.</b><b>How do you deal with this ever changing market</b><b>and maybe also ever changing customer demands?</b><b>It's a good question. And what we try not to be is reactive. In a sense,</b><b>you know, we see an opportunity or we have an idea like the.</b><b>Well, we're not going to speak for the methanol</b><b>yet because we haven't published that officially yet.</b><b>But for the hydrogen that we've published quite a bit about is coming up with this</b><b>idea of the same cycle spark control, which is something that has.</b><b>It doesn't even cross people's minds as possible.</b><b>And we said, let's do this because this is the only way you can make a hydrogen</b><b>engine have diesel like performance and</b><b>needs to have diesel like combustion stability.</b><b>So we come up with a technology and we promote it.</b><b>So you end up leading the customer to say, oh, yes, I do need this.</b><b>And I didn't know I needed it. And I didn't know I needed it. So trying to break new ground and find solutions to</b><b>problems that they have accepted as status quo and they shouldn't.</b><b>So that's where Prometheus likes to be is leading the pack, so to speak, and not so</b><b>much on the reaction of following the industry trends.</b><b>I mean, we're all a slave to that at some point, you know, when there's</b><b>electrification happening and the internal combustion engine is</b><b>dying slowly and now there's a revival.</b><b>OK, that's good for business. Now let's find solutions to get there faster.</b><b>It almost sounds like the romantic engineering spirit is really being lived at.</b><b>Prometheus, if that's if that's that's what I</b><b>take away, you're looking for the next big thing.</b><b>And I think you mentioned it before that the worst thing you can do to your team is</b><b>to give them a project that has already been done before.</b><b>And just repeat it. Maybe you can touch on that.</b><b>What kind of team do you need? What personalities do you need that are so eager to</b><b>do something new and something new in this</b><b>field means to learn something new, I would assume.</b><b>Young and eager. I mean, that is the trend that I have seen in the people that are</b><b>interested in pushing the limits and they have to have vision.</b><b>So, yeah, it is romantic. It is my dream job</b><b>when I was looking for a job out of school.</b><b>I wanted to be able to be doing R&D is what I would say.</b><b>But, you know, in the end, it forms itself in what Prometheus stands for today.</b><b>So if you have if you're driven by learning, you belong a Prometheus.</b><b>And that is, you know, if I had to distill it in one thing, that has to be it.</b><b>That's a very cool statement.</b><b>If you go back to simulation, this is why this podcast</b><b>is actually there for to talk about simulation as a whole.</b><b>Where do you see the most untapped</b><b>potential for simulation in your area, obviously?</b><b>Well, if I had to pick one region or maybe two untapped potential would be some</b><b>individual will hate for me saying that, but it would be the mesh.</b><b>I would like this to be somewhat more efficient than it is today.</b><b>I understand what we need to have it, but I think we can make it be faster.</b><b>Computationally speaking, you know, not to take so many hours to run the code to</b><b>mesh something that would be an improvement.</b><b>Chemical mechanisms need quite a bit of help because there's no investment in by</b><b>universities on, you know, that's the only people that do chemical mechanisms are</b><b>university people that don't necessarily understand that our industry,</b><b>the internal combustion industry, we need different</b><b>temperatures and pressures to be having these mechanisms work.</b><b>So there's a couple of things to just improve simulation and predictability.</b><b>But other than that, you know, as time progresses,</b><b>computational speeds are increasing, so we get results faster.</b><b>And then there is this big trend of artificial</b><b>intelligence in the industry and in the software area overall.</b><b>What's your take on artificial intelligence in simulation?</b><b>And maybe certainly in CFD.</b><b>Anyway, I think.</b><b>Maybe naively so, but I think it's a good thing.</b><b>I think AI can help us, you know, get better codes faster.</b><b>With greater predictability, I mean, in the end, that's what we need simulations to</b><b>do is to help us in understanding and seeing things and then coming up with</b><b>solutions that we can test, so to speak, on the,</b><b>you know, with simulation before we make hardware.</b><b>So I think AI can help with being able to, you know, find the shortcomings and</b><b>improve the code, so to speak, even the speed, those aspects.</b><b>Well, thank you for this deep dive into your work, the simulation aspect.</b><b>Now we want to wrap up with some, I would</b><b>say, personal, professional questions to you.</b><b>And you are traveling the world, you're spearing your company.</b><b>How do you keep your work-life balance?</b><b>Yes, the work-life balance.</b><b>So I will tell you, I struggled with this for many years, especially having started</b><b>Prometheus, which literally takes a lot of time and dedication.</b><b>And I know Elon Musk is not popular these days, but I</b><b>remember when he would say, oh, I sleep in my office.</b><b>I thought, oh, thank God, someone else is doing this, too.</b><b>So because I literally had to do that because we had projects and it was just the</b><b>need to check the simulation at 2 a.m. or something, whatever.</b><b>I was like, I'm not going home.</b><b>So in the end, there is really what you do to recharge yourself.</b><b>That's my personal perspective.</b><b>Of course, you need to have family.</b><b>My husband is very supportive to in your goals and dreams and to be able to</b><b>recharge yourself with the work that you do.</b><b>So I think it's up to the individual.</b><b>Everybody has their own work-life balance.</b><b>Mine is a work-work balance.</b><b>So I'm happy with it.</b><b>And what do you then actually do to recharge the batteries?</b><b>Because I would assume, like, for any other</b><b>person in the world, maybe you're the chosen one.</b><b>But I guess also that you get tired</b><b>sometimes, not only physically, but also mentally.</b><b>Oh, sure. Sure, I do.</b><b>I mean, I get tired a lot, especially with jet lag.</b><b>But this podcast is very exciting for me.</b><b>So that definitely I mean, I know I'm going to leave this podcast room today and</b><b>I'm going to feel like I'm going to be in a room with you.</b><b>I feel really excited that I did this and presentations and conferences and being</b><b>able to interact with, you know, high caliber individuals that really get</b><b>simulations, really get our industry, you know, from different aspects of our</b><b>industry to be able to have conversations</b><b>to say, how do we move our industry forward?</b><b>How do we help each other in the world in the best way possible?</b><b>So that makes me excited and energizes me.</b><b>I don't ever say, oh, I'm done with the presentation.</b><b>I feel so tired. Like, I can't say that I get really excited about it.</b><b>That's very cool to hear. So we are</b><b>participating in your recharging process, which is great.</b><b>And you owe us basically.</b><b>You're right.</b><b>Very cool. So after years on the job, what have you taken away?</b><b>Is there something you wish you would have never learned?</b><b>No, no, there is never a lesson to be learned that</b><b>you would say, oh, I'd rather not learn this lesson.</b><b>That is not something I would ever say.</b><b>And we have the philosophy at Prometheus</b><b>where we say you never lose when you learn.</b><b>Because, yeah, of course, we have some</b><b>combustion solutions that didn't work exactly as expected.</b><b>But what did we learn from it? So we don't do it again.</b><b>So, yeah, it's always a good learning experience. There is no bad ones.</b><b>And if you could give your 20 year old self some advice for the future and making a</b><b>career in this industry, what advice would that be?</b><b>So I 20, I was still at university and I was very nervous</b><b>that I didn't know what engineering was, that I would like it.</b><b>I mean, I had no clue what I was getting into, really.</b><b>So I would think I would go back and say,</b><b>OK, don't worry, you're just going to love it.</b><b>So stick with it and it will be fine.</b><b>Beautiful. Thank you so much for your time in this conversation.</b><b>And I wish you a great rest of your day. Thank you.</b><b>Thank you, Max.</b><b>Thanks for joining us on the AVL simulation</b><b>podcast where engineering missions take off.</b><b>We hope today's journey through the world of</b><b>simulation sparked new ideas and perspectives.</b><b>To keep up with future episodes, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.</b><b>And if you're ready to accelerate your digital</b><b>engineering mission, visit AVL.com for more insights.</b><b>Until next time, keep simulating, keep innovating and keep pushing the boundaries.</b>